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	<title>Comments on: CAMPAIGN 08 EDITORIAL: How was Hillary tested?</title>
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		<title>By: Ian Arbuckle</title>
		<link>http://warincontext.org/2008/03/06/campaign-08-editorial-how-was-hillary-tested/comment-page-1/#comment-1455</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Arbuckle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience tells us that using the same bad advisers will produce the same &quot;bad&quot; advice. So fake experienced or none, doing it the way Bill did it, but more robustly, will hardly provide the fundamental changes that Americans need especially in foreign policy.

When asked about Columbia&#039;s illegal violation of Ecuador’s territory:
Statement from Hillary Clinton - 3/3/2008

“Hugo Chavez’s order yesterday to send ten battalions to the Colombian border is unwarranted and dangerous. The Colombian state has every right to defend itself against drug trafficking terrorist organizations that have kidnapped innocent civilians, including American citizens. By praising and supporting the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, Chavez is openly siding with terrorists that threaten Colombian democracy and the peace and security of the region. Rather than criticizing Colombia’s actions in combating terrorist groups in the border regions, Venezuela and Ecuador should work with their neighbor to ensure that their territories no longer serve as safe havens for terrorist groups. After reviewing this situation, I am hopeful that the government of Ecuador will determine that its interests lie in closer cooperation with Colombia on this issue. Hugo Chavez must call a halt to this provocative action. As president, I will work with our partners in the region and the OAS to support democracy, promote an end to conflict, and to press Chavez to change course.”

Now, when the OAS met, the U.S. and Colombia were so isolated, for obvious reasons, that they had to agree to a consensus resolution that rebuked their claim that the raid was justified. Here is the declaration:

‘In Washington, the Organization of American States passed a consensus resolution that used mutually acceptable language to rebuke Colombia for having violated Ecuadorean sovereignty Saturday in a raid that killed a high-ranking rebel leader and 16 others.

The 34-member organization voted to “reaffirm the principle that the territory of a state is inviolable and may not be the object, even temporarily, of military occupation or of other measures of force taken by another state, directly or indirectly, on any grounds whatsoever.”‘

Clinton&#039;s sabre rattling against Chavez may echo well with other conflicts, interests, and please supporters like AIPAC, or Cuban expatriates in Miami, appearing to ride roughshod over any legal considerations, but shows a complete lack of grasp either of the situation, or it&#039;s consequences, and the long term need for a change of US diplomatic approach and relations with Latin American states.

This action by Columbia, was undoubtedly approved by the present US Administration, by the way, probably caused Ingrid Betancourt, and 4 Americans included in 12 hostages which were nearly released, but to have their forced stay with FARC extended, since the leader, Raul Reyes, who was killed along with 16 others, was the one handling the negotiations, most likely on the very same satellite telephone which was used to guide the missiles to its target, undoubtedly with CIA help.

So, just from this we see the kind of 3 A.M. reply we might expect from Hillary Clinton, and it is wrong and dangerous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience tells us that using the same bad advisers will produce the same &#8220;bad&#8221; advice. So fake experienced or none, doing it the way Bill did it, but more robustly, will hardly provide the fundamental changes that Americans need especially in foreign policy.</p>
<p>When asked about Columbia&#8217;s illegal violation of Ecuador’s territory:<br />
Statement from Hillary Clinton &#8211; 3/3/2008</p>
<p>“Hugo Chavez’s order yesterday to send ten battalions to the Colombian border is unwarranted and dangerous. The Colombian state has every right to defend itself against drug trafficking terrorist organizations that have kidnapped innocent civilians, including American citizens. By praising and supporting the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, Chavez is openly siding with terrorists that threaten Colombian democracy and the peace and security of the region. Rather than criticizing Colombia’s actions in combating terrorist groups in the border regions, Venezuela and Ecuador should work with their neighbor to ensure that their territories no longer serve as safe havens for terrorist groups. After reviewing this situation, I am hopeful that the government of Ecuador will determine that its interests lie in closer cooperation with Colombia on this issue. Hugo Chavez must call a halt to this provocative action. As president, I will work with our partners in the region and the OAS to support democracy, promote an end to conflict, and to press Chavez to change course.”</p>
<p>Now, when the OAS met, the U.S. and Colombia were so isolated, for obvious reasons, that they had to agree to a consensus resolution that rebuked their claim that the raid was justified. Here is the declaration:</p>
<p>‘In Washington, the Organization of American States passed a consensus resolution that used mutually acceptable language to rebuke Colombia for having violated Ecuadorean sovereignty Saturday in a raid that killed a high-ranking rebel leader and 16 others.</p>
<p>The 34-member organization voted to “reaffirm the principle that the territory of a state is inviolable and may not be the object, even temporarily, of military occupation or of other measures of force taken by another state, directly or indirectly, on any grounds whatsoever.”‘</p>
<p>Clinton&#8217;s sabre rattling against Chavez may echo well with other conflicts, interests, and please supporters like AIPAC, or Cuban expatriates in Miami, appearing to ride roughshod over any legal considerations, but shows a complete lack of grasp either of the situation, or it&#8217;s consequences, and the long term need for a change of US diplomatic approach and relations with Latin American states.</p>
<p>This action by Columbia, was undoubtedly approved by the present US Administration, by the way, probably caused Ingrid Betancourt, and 4 Americans included in 12 hostages which were nearly released, but to have their forced stay with FARC extended, since the leader, Raul Reyes, who was killed along with 16 others, was the one handling the negotiations, most likely on the very same satellite telephone which was used to guide the missiles to its target, undoubtedly with CIA help.</p>
<p>So, just from this we see the kind of 3 A.M. reply we might expect from Hillary Clinton, and it is wrong and dangerous!</p>
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		<title>By: carol Elkins</title>
		<link>http://warincontext.org/2008/03/06/campaign-08-editorial-how-was-hillary-tested/comment-page-1/#comment-1454</link>
		<dc:creator>carol Elkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 11:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear is the terrorists greatest weapon.  When people are terrified they do not think.  The Red Phone ad was an act of terrorism.  Hillary can only be elected
if she gets people to stop thinking.  We have been invaded by the terrorist within, and we have lost our sovereignty forthwith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear is the terrorists greatest weapon.  When people are terrified they do not think.  The Red Phone ad was an act of terrorism.  Hillary can only be elected<br />
if she gets people to stop thinking.  We have been invaded by the terrorist within, and we have lost our sovereignty forthwith.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ Wellen</title>
		<link>http://warincontext.org/2008/03/06/campaign-08-editorial-how-was-hillary-tested/comment-page-1/#comment-1449</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ Wellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It’s about confidence in the capabilities of the administration that you put together.&quot;

If I were to pick one ground on which to object to her, it&#039;s her foreign policy team: Holbrooke, Albright, Berger.

Not just at 3 a.m., but at any hour during her husband&#039;s administration, they were all too willing to order B-52s airborne.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s about confidence in the capabilities of the administration that you put together.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I were to pick one ground on which to object to her, it&#8217;s her foreign policy team: Holbrooke, Albright, Berger.</p>
<p>Not just at 3 a.m., but at any hour during her husband&#8217;s administration, they were all too willing to order B-52s airborne.</p>
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