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	<title>Comments on: EDITORIAL: The government of Israel does not make US policy &#8212; or does it?</title>
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		<title>By: War in Context - EDITORIAL: Will Clinton allow Israel to violate US sovereignty?</title>
		<link>http://warincontext.org/2009/01/13/editorial-the-government-of-israel-does-not-make-us-policy-or-does-it/comment-page-1/#comment-3890</link>
		<dc:creator>War in Context - EDITORIAL: Will Clinton allow Israel to violate US sovereignty?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 17:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few weeks ago Ehud Olmert was bragging about his ability to dictate to President Bush how the US should vote in the UN Security Council. Now Israel is laying down &#8220;red [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] few weeks ago Ehud Olmert was bragging about his ability to dictate to President Bush how the US should vote in the UN Security Council. Now Israel is laying down &#8220;red [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Trance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Israel is a Dead Man Walking.

Within 3 decades, when the U.S. is no longer a Superpower, Israel will be wiped off the map.  Politically, no need for H-bombs.  China, India, Russia and the world that arises after the U.S. crashes and burns is not going to tolerate Israeli barbarity, after Peak Oil.

Israel will be embargoed, sanctioned, surrounded and dismembered.  They have pissed off the whole world, and their one protector is getting poor and weak.</description>
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<p>Within 3 decades, when the U.S. is no longer a Superpower, Israel will be wiped off the map.  Politically, no need for H-bombs.  China, India, Russia and the world that arises after the U.S. crashes and burns is not going to tolerate Israeli barbarity, after Peak Oil.</p>
<p>Israel will be embargoed, sanctioned, surrounded and dismembered.  They have pissed off the whole world, and their one protector is getting poor and weak.</p>
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		<title>By: swan</title>
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		<dc:creator>swan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 10:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate being a colony of Israel.  Shame on all but five in Congress, who voted nay to the Israel Lobby resolution saying that USA was on the side of the jewish state of Israel over the impoverished Gaza Strip, and none of those five were jews, muslims, or white women.   USA is doomed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate being a colony of Israel.  Shame on all but five in Congress, who voted nay to the Israel Lobby resolution saying that USA was on the side of the jewish state of Israel over the impoverished Gaza Strip, and none of those five were jews, muslims, or white women.   USA is doomed!</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 01:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I talked to an Israeli at a chat room and was surprised at the venom the guy felt for all Palestinians. He said they should all leave. I reminded him that it was their home and he said that historically it belonged to Israel and not to the Palestinians. I asked him why doesn&#039;t Israel, instead of spending billions on the military, provide good living conditions and good jobs and schools for Palestinians--pointing out that a Palestinian living a decent life will be less likely to join a terrorist group and destroy his life. The Israeli answered that all Palestinians cannot be trusted and that they will ALWAYS try to destroy Israel.

All I can say is, with that kind of mindset, there will never be peace. Basically, the guy is just advocating genocide or the mass kicking out of a people from their land--which is ironic considering this same situation happened to the Jews. Now that they have the upper hand, instead of vowing to stop that kind of evil, it seems they are now employing it. Sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I talked to an Israeli at a chat room and was surprised at the venom the guy felt for all Palestinians. He said they should all leave. I reminded him that it was their home and he said that historically it belonged to Israel and not to the Palestinians. I asked him why doesn&#8217;t Israel, instead of spending billions on the military, provide good living conditions and good jobs and schools for Palestinians&#8211;pointing out that a Palestinian living a decent life will be less likely to join a terrorist group and destroy his life. The Israeli answered that all Palestinians cannot be trusted and that they will ALWAYS try to destroy Israel.</p>
<p>All I can say is, with that kind of mindset, there will never be peace. Basically, the guy is just advocating genocide or the mass kicking out of a people from their land&#8211;which is ironic considering this same situation happened to the Jews. Now that they have the upper hand, instead of vowing to stop that kind of evil, it seems they are now employing it. Sad.</p>
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		<title>By: bay</title>
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		<dc:creator>bay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of Course we are israel puppet..Have been for 8 years..Send them 8 billion a year, send them tons of up to date weapons, ..Without us they they would have to get along with their neighbors, but as long as we give them everything they want they continue to bully..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of Course we are israel puppet..Have been for 8 years..Send them 8 billion a year, send them tons of up to date weapons, ..Without us they they would have to get along with their neighbors, but as long as we give them everything they want they continue to bully..</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Chris, I live in Madison, Wisconsin.  Actuarily, I&#039;ve lived half my life at least.  Growing up, I never really understood the anti-Jew sentiment that came along sometimes.  I did know it was there and was forced to deal with it, as with anti-black sentiment, or anti-foreigner sentiment or whatever, sure.  Most of us here know about these things.  It just never did make sense to me not to take each person as an individual, rather than as a member of some group or other.  Friendship and shared trust with members of such stereotype groups in my mixed country has always seemed to indicate that so clearly that I&#039;d have been stupid not to figure it out.  I&#039;m very certain I have not known and loved only &#039;exceptions&#039; - to my own benefit - in my life.  
	To criticize the policies and actions of the government of Israel is to pretty much guarantee being labeled &#039;anti-Semite&#039; - a fairly obvious knee-jerk defense involving both taking offense and taking the offense.  Israel is, of course, full of Jewish people, but even the most modest brain could hardly fail to see that criticizing a government&#039;s actions is not the same thing as &#039;attacking Jews.&#039;  One is reminded of the various obnoxious radio talk-show host and political types one occasionally hears, how they vehemently and assaultively insist they did not say the &#039;bad things&#039; the tapes prove they did.  The slightly less modest mind must surely see that the motives behind such poor victims&#039; bluster are really what&#039;s important and interesting. That&#039;s just real life, as any fool can surely see.
	Just like us with our &#039;disappointments&#039; - as our president seemed to call them yesterday (though any fool can also see that some in this country have indeed benefited mightily) - in the Middle East, Israel should not even pretend to be surprised and hurt that doing what they are doing to other people causes resentment and, unfortunately, even hate.  As there are lots of people, so there is potential for a lot of those things.  That also is real life. 
	I&#039;m white, but even I can see that having been a victim is even less a reason to victimize other people than just being merely barbaric is.  Israel has not been harmed like they have harmed, and been seen harming, the citizens of Palestine, this time around.  It has to stop somewhere, or it simply never will, yeah?  How about some of the peace and humility our various religions blather on about so fruitlessly??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Chris, I live in Madison, Wisconsin.  Actuarily, I&#8217;ve lived half my life at least.  Growing up, I never really understood the anti-Jew sentiment that came along sometimes.  I did know it was there and was forced to deal with it, as with anti-black sentiment, or anti-foreigner sentiment or whatever, sure.  Most of us here know about these things.  It just never did make sense to me not to take each person as an individual, rather than as a member of some group or other.  Friendship and shared trust with members of such stereotype groups in my mixed country has always seemed to indicate that so clearly that I&#8217;d have been stupid not to figure it out.  I&#8217;m very certain I have not known and loved only &#8216;exceptions&#8217; &#8211; to my own benefit &#8211; in my life.<br />
	To criticize the policies and actions of the government of Israel is to pretty much guarantee being labeled &#8216;anti-Semite&#8217; &#8211; a fairly obvious knee-jerk defense involving both taking offense and taking the offense.  Israel is, of course, full of Jewish people, but even the most modest brain could hardly fail to see that criticizing a government&#8217;s actions is not the same thing as &#8216;attacking Jews.&#8217;  One is reminded of the various obnoxious radio talk-show host and political types one occasionally hears, how they vehemently and assaultively insist they did not say the &#8216;bad things&#8217; the tapes prove they did.  The slightly less modest mind must surely see that the motives behind such poor victims&#8217; bluster are really what&#8217;s important and interesting. That&#8217;s just real life, as any fool can surely see.<br />
	Just like us with our &#8216;disappointments&#8217; &#8211; as our president seemed to call them yesterday (though any fool can also see that some in this country have indeed benefited mightily) &#8211; in the Middle East, Israel should not even pretend to be surprised and hurt that doing what they are doing to other people causes resentment and, unfortunately, even hate.  As there are lots of people, so there is potential for a lot of those things.  That also is real life.<br />
	I&#8217;m white, but even I can see that having been a victim is even less a reason to victimize other people than just being merely barbaric is.  Israel has not been harmed like they have harmed, and been seen harming, the citizens of Palestine, this time around.  It has to stop somewhere, or it simply never will, yeah?  How about some of the peace and humility our various religions blather on about so fruitlessly??</p>
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