Comments on: EDITORIAL: Who poses a greater threat to Israel? Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or Benjamin Netanyahu? http://warincontext.org/2009/04/01/editorial-who-poses-a-greater-threat-to-israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-or-benjamin-netanyahu/ ... with attention to the unseen Wed, 23 May 2012 19:49:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Stuart Leveson http://warincontext.org/2009/04/01/editorial-who-poses-a-greater-threat-to-israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-or-benjamin-netanyahu/comment-page-1/#comment-7135 Stuart Leveson Tue, 05 Jan 2010 20:09:55 +0000 http://warincontext.org/?p=1551#comment-7135 Amedinejad has a pathalogical hatred of all things Israel and Jews in general. If many reports of the recent Presidential polls in Iran are to be believed, he should not be in power at all and by definition, the threat to Israel and the wider world, would be significantly diminished if he were not in power. As he has publicly declared his intention to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, (the only country on the planet under such threat)how can the world be a safe place when, rightly or wrongly, Israel and it's many friendly nations around the world will rightly do whatever it takes to safeguard it's very existence, as any country under such threat would do. These problems are not of Israel's making and they do not export their violence around the world, unlike many of it's enemies, they merely protect themselves from threats and attacks by their neighbours. Israel is not going anywhere and the world, especially the Middle Eastern world, needs to understand there is nothing they can successfully do that wil ever alter that, no matter how hard they try and no matter what propoganda they spread. Amedinejad has a pathalogical hatred of all things Israel and Jews in general. If many reports of the recent Presidential polls in Iran are to be believed, he should not be in power at all and by definition, the threat to Israel and the wider world, would be significantly diminished if he were not in power.

As he has publicly declared his intention to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth, (the only country on the planet under such threat)how can the world be a safe place when, rightly or wrongly, Israel and it’s many friendly nations around the world will rightly do whatever it takes to safeguard it’s very existence, as any country under such threat would do.

These problems are not of Israel’s making and they do not export their violence around the world, unlike many of it’s enemies, they merely protect themselves from threats and attacks by their neighbours.

Israel is not going anywhere and the world, especially the Middle Eastern world, needs to understand there is nothing they can successfully do that wil ever alter that, no matter how hard they try and no matter what propoganda they spread.

]]> By: delia ruhe http://warincontext.org/2009/04/01/editorial-who-poses-a-greater-threat-to-israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-or-benjamin-netanyahu/comment-page-1/#comment-4237 delia ruhe Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:48:15 +0000 http://warincontext.org/?p=1551#comment-4237 So who needs a nuclear bomb? Seems to me that Iran already has one--one that doesn't even require that Iran pull the trigger. That would appear to be deterrence enough. So who needs a nuclear bomb? Seems to me that Iran already has one–one that doesn’t even require that Iran pull the trigger. That would appear to be deterrence enough.

]]> By: Aditya http://warincontext.org/2009/04/01/editorial-who-poses-a-greater-threat-to-israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-or-benjamin-netanyahu/comment-page-1/#comment-4231 Aditya Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:29:15 +0000 http://warincontext.org/?p=1551#comment-4231 Paul, The Union of Concerned Scientists ran a simulation on the effects of a strike using a 'tactical nuke' (see Sy Hersch reports) on one of Iran's nuclear sites, coming up with very large causality numbers: http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_weapons_and_global_security/nuclear_weapons/technical_issues/the-robust-nuclear-earth.html "RNEP could kill millions of people: A simulation of RNEP used against the Esfahan nuclear facility in Iran, using the software developed for the Pentagon, showed that 3 million people would be killed by radiation within 2 weeks of the explosion, and 35 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India would be exposed to increased levels of cancer-causing radiation (see Figure 1)" From a Physicians for Social Responsibility report in the UCS study: If many nuclear-related sites were attacked, a higher number of casualties could be expected, because many of those sites are located in cities, on university campuses, or near business zones or residential neighborhoods. Logically, the greatest number of casualties would be expected from a wide-ranging target set, including the nuclear-related sites, military bases and command and control facilities, and even power plants and other infrastructure targets. Best, A Paul,

The Union of Concerned Scientists ran a simulation on the effects of a strike using a ‘tactical nuke’ (see Sy Hersch reports) on one of Iran’s nuclear sites, coming up with very large causality numbers:

http://www.ucsusa.org/nuclear_weapons_and_global_security/nuclear_weapons/technical_issues/the-robust-nuclear-earth.html

“RNEP could kill millions of people: A simulation of RNEP used against the Esfahan nuclear facility in Iran, using the software developed for the Pentagon, showed that 3 million people would be killed by radiation within 2 weeks of the explosion, and 35 million people in Afghanistan, Pakistan and India would be exposed to increased levels of cancer-causing radiation (see Figure 1)”

From a Physicians for Social Responsibility report in the UCS study:

If many nuclear-related
sites were attacked, a higher number of casualties
could be expected, because many of those sites
are located in cities, on university campuses, or
near business zones or residential neighborhoods.
Logically, the greatest number of casualties would
be expected from a wide-ranging target set, including
the nuclear-related sites, military bases and
command and control facilities, and even power
plants and other infrastructure targets.

Best, A

]]> By: Russ Wellen http://warincontext.org/2009/04/01/editorial-who-poses-a-greater-threat-to-israel-mahmoud-ahmadinejad-or-benjamin-netanyahu/comment-page-1/#comment-4230 Russ Wellen Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:06:03 +0000 http://warincontext.org/?p=1551#comment-4230 Goldberg wrote: The first-stage Iranian goal, in the understanding of Netanyahu and his advisers, is to frighten Israel’s most talented citizens into leaving their country. Paul wrote: What seems strikingly obvious is that the choices made by the Israeli government may well have the same effect and lead Jews in increasing numbers to conclude that Zionism has failed. Allow me to take it one step further: Lead Israelis to leave the country in disgust over its government taking so many Palestinian lives just to prop up an idea that has long outlived its usefulness. Goldberg wrote:
The first-stage Iranian goal, in the understanding of Netanyahu and his advisers, is to frighten Israel’s most talented citizens into leaving their country.

Paul wrote:
What seems strikingly obvious is that the choices made by the Israeli government may well have the same effect and lead Jews in increasing numbers to conclude that Zionism has failed.

Allow me to take it one step further:
Lead Israelis to leave the country in disgust over its government taking so many Palestinian lives just to prop up an idea that has long outlived its usefulness.

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