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		<title>By: Aditya</title>
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		<description>I find it hard to believe that such a big fuss (calls for congressional inquires, several major media reports, etc.) is being made on a program that &quot;was never operational.&quot;

Lets look at what we know to be highly plausible or uncontroversially true:

The US Army started developing death squads in Iraq as far back as April 2003 according to Shane Bauer
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090622/bauer/single

Newsweek proudly reported in 2005 that the US military had resurrected the &quot;el Salvador option&quot;.  No outcry.  Not much concern out of congress. 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098/

Additionally, Michael Hirsh and John Barry incredibly claim &quot;There is no evidence, however, that Negroponte knew anything about the Salvadoran death squads or the Iran-Contra scandal at the time.&quot;
Of course a 2-minute Google search would reveal that to be complete nonsense. But after all they are Serious Washington reporters.  The discipline of the media is astonishing at times.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames/2203

And what are we to make of Sy Hersh&#039;s comment&#039;s, discussed briefly, then tossed in the memory hole:
http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring

&quot;Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.

&quot;Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.

&quot;It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue.&quot;

Winter Patriot observes however:
http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2009/03/screwed-again-seymour-hersh-puts-pro.html
&quot;And so, here we are, in never-never land. Even Seymour Hersh, famed investigative reporter, can&#039;t help slinging it, one shovel-full at a time.

&quot;They&#039;re not murderers, even though what they&#039;re doing is murder. But how do we define a &quot;murderer&quot;? Is it not someone who murders? Hersh can&#039;t even bring himself to call it that, but he will go so far as to say that they&#039;re &quot;committing what we would normally call murder&quot;.

&quot;I&#039;m not a writer. I&#039;m just doing what we would normally call writing. And you&#039;re not a reader. You&#039;re just doing what we would normally call reading. Really. No exaggerations. It&#039;s all highly specialized.&quot;

&quot;Apparently it&#039;s &quot;very complicated&quot;, at least in Hersh&#039;s imagination. And it might not be murder, even though it&#039;s what we would normally call murder, because the murderers are not actually murderers but instead &quot;young men that went into the Special Forces&quot;.

And so the charade goes on.  Perhaps until Hersh finally writes that, um... well... it actually was operational... but its a very complicated issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to believe that such a big fuss (calls for congressional inquires, several major media reports, etc.) is being made on a program that &#8220;was never operational.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets look at what we know to be highly plausible or uncontroversially true:</p>
<p>The US Army started developing death squads in Iraq as far back as April 2003 according to Shane Bauer<br />
<a href="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090622/bauer/single" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090622/bauer/single</a></p>
<p>Newsweek proudly reported in 2005 that the US military had resurrected the &#8220;el Salvador option&#8221;.  No outcry.  Not much concern out of congress.<br />
<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6802629/site/newsweek/print/1/displaymode/1098/</a></p>
<p>Additionally, Michael Hirsh and John Barry incredibly claim &#8220;There is no evidence, however, that Negroponte knew anything about the Salvadoran death squads or the Iran-Contra scandal at the time.&#8221;<br />
Of course a 2-minute Google search would reveal that to be complete nonsense. But after all they are Serious Washington reporters.  The discipline of the media is astonishing at times.<br />
<a href="http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames/2203" rel="nofollow">http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames/2203</a></p>
<p>And what are we to make of Sy Hersh&#8217;s comment&#8217;s, discussed briefly, then tossed in the memory hole:<br />
<a href="http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring" rel="nofollow">http://www.minnpost.com/ericblackblog/2009/03/11/7310/investigative_reporter_seymour_hersh_describes_executive_assassination_ring</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Congress has no oversight of it. It’s an executive assassination ring essentially, and it’s been going on and on and on. Just today in the Times there was a story that its leaders, a three star admiral named [William H.] McRaven, ordered a stop to it because there were so many collateral deaths.</p>
<p>&#8220;Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving. That’s been going on, in the name of all of us.</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s complicated because the guys doing it are not murderers, and yet they are committing what we would normally call murder. It’s a very complicated issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>Winter Patriot observes however:<br />
<a href="http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2009/03/screwed-again-seymour-hersh-puts-pro.html" rel="nofollow">http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2009/03/screwed-again-seymour-hersh-puts-pro.html</a><br />
&#8220;And so, here we are, in never-never land. Even Seymour Hersh, famed investigative reporter, can&#8217;t help slinging it, one shovel-full at a time.</p>
<p>&#8220;They&#8217;re not murderers, even though what they&#8217;re doing is murder. But how do we define a &#8220;murderer&#8221;? Is it not someone who murders? Hersh can&#8217;t even bring himself to call it that, but he will go so far as to say that they&#8217;re &#8220;committing what we would normally call murder&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not a writer. I&#8217;m just doing what we would normally call writing. And you&#8217;re not a reader. You&#8217;re just doing what we would normally call reading. Really. No exaggerations. It&#8217;s all highly specialized.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Apparently it&#8217;s &#8220;very complicated&#8221;, at least in Hersh&#8217;s imagination. And it might not be murder, even though it&#8217;s what we would normally call murder, because the murderers are not actually murderers but instead &#8220;young men that went into the Special Forces&#8221;.</p>
<p>And so the charade goes on.  Perhaps until Hersh finally writes that, um&#8230; well&#8230; it actually was operational&#8230; but its a very complicated issue.</p>
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