I truly believe that if/when the day comes that the U.S./Israel relationship no longer has any value to Israel, they drop us faster than a pimp can cut loose an under performing hooker.

anti-Semitic? No. Not at all. I don’t have any problems or issues with Jewish or Israeli people. My problem is the lopsided, selfish relationship between the U.S. and Israel. If I had two friends in lopsided marriage that was destroying one party for the benefit of the other, I could still love them both while simultaneously advising them to get a divorce.

One could not but have respect and admiration for Israeli, they have repeatedly offered to meet any Arab rulers and have invited all Arab rulers to come to them. They even did that for President Assad of Syria. What more do you expect from them to do for issuance of peace in the region? Surrender their sovereignty, the land, the places holy and reverent to them to Arab leaders who are too busy in London, Monaco and at the Palm Casinos VIP roulette rooms to deal with this Middle East issue beyond the Arab League ultimatums they fight each other’s bloody to manage for an issue of it. What evidence the Palestinians have shown since Arafat landed in Ramallah that they are capable of living peacefully with Jews in the land and have the means to develop a basic state and economic institution that can sustains them for some decades. None whatsoever, so anyone in Washington expect Jews in Israel to oblige to all these unreasonable demands incessantly made to them is a fool.

When she was in the hospital getting treated, for free, she witnessed the cursing of Muslims whose lives were being saved by those same doctors.

This attitude prevails today. Why does the world hate Israel? The British mandate was fulfilled and Israel became a nation again after 2,000 years of not existing. They ceased to exist in AD70. Some theologians say the ceased to exist in 587 BC when Nebuchanezer detroyed Solomon’s temple.

When will the ignorant world wake up and see that Israel is not the bad guy here?

“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee”

The historical consensus of the American people is that Carter was a wholesale failure, but he is most widely despised for the deterioration of US national security and military readiness that happened under his watch. His most recent legacy is a nuclear Iran that you would all call “Israel’s fault.”

Here is the scenario you should all be considering. Let’s say that regional forces from whatever nation, territory, or alliance of nations should manage to annihilate Israel and completely subjugate any of its citizens left alive. This is a mere daydream, impossible of realization, but let us suppose that your collective preferences are realized in the near future. Let’s also assume that once it is over the United States congratulates the responsible parties and publicly bids Israel and Jewry good riddance. Is it then that you think that we can herald in the heretofore elusive era of cooperation and harmony of interest with the Islamic nations at large? May God help you see the truth. I would think that even the dimmest observer among this crowd would say to himself “it’s a good thing they have those ignoble Jews to occupy them.”

I only cite the above examples (not in any way anti Muslim) to suggest that it has been a part of Muslim culture and practice for some time to confront the west and to try and take territory for Islam and to retake territory that had once been Muslim. The way that translates today is that Israel being situated in a place once a part of the Ottoman Empire and thus finding itself in the crosshairs of Muslim angst every since its founding.
The Jewish people have historical ties to the land territory of the nation of Israel that predate Muslim expansion by at least 1,500 years.

Resolving the issue of on one hand the Muslim (Palastinian and other Muslim groups)
desire for land and it Israel’s very long standing ties to its land not simple and
and easily resolved. It is not necessarily the fault of one side or the other because they have stong fealings about land.

My question would be “What can rational reasonable people do whith such a complex matter?”

We’ve simply got to work harder to overcome non-Israeli “perception” of what we — and the Israelis — are doing over there.

This is a quote from Jimmy Carter’s book, “The Blood of Abraham”, whose strength and courage as US president was nver significantly recognized, largely because of constant Zionnist attempts to discredit and undermaine his presidency.

“As president, I considered this major invasion to be an over reaction to the PLO attack, a serious threat to peace in the region, and perhaps part of a design to establish a permanent Israeli presence in southern Lebanon. Also, such use of American weapons including cluster bombs violated the legal agreement between the United States and Israel, which specified that such armaments sold by us could be used only for defensive purposes against an attack on Israel.

“In spite of my expressions of concern and worldwide outcry, Begin seemed determined to keep his forces in Lebanon for an extended period and – in another direct violation of American law — to transfer American weapons, including artillery and armored vehicles, to the Lebanese militia commanded by Major Saad Haddad. These troops had been trained and supported by the Israelis, in order to seal off the southern portion of the country against Palestinian terrorists. In carrying out this assignment, they also prevented Lebanese regular troops and UN peacekeeping forces from entering the area.

“After consulting with Secretary Cyrus Vance and with key supporters of Israel in congress, I decided that we could not permit the Israeli occupation of southern Lebanon to continue. In the event that Begin would not accede to our wishes, we prepared to notify Congress, as required by law, that US weapons were being used illegally in Lebanon, which would have automatically cut off all military aid to Israel. Also, I instructed the state department to prepare a UN Security Council resolution condemning Israel’s action.

“The American consul general in Jerusalem was instructed to deliver a message to Prime Minister Begin that explained these plans and urged that he withdraw his forces. The report came back from Jerusalem that Begin read the message, stood quietly for a few moments, and then said, “Its over.” “