Scott Lucas, Professor at the University of Birmingham and Editor of EA WorldView, joined Pat Kenny of Dublin Newstalk on Monday morning for a lengthy discussion, spurred by the refugee crisis, about the origins of the conflict in Syria.

The chat then moved to the current situation, including Russia’s military and political gamble to save the Assad regime, and the question, “So what is the solution?”

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