5 thoughts on “Kenneth O’Keefe interviewed on BBC’s Hardtalk”
estebanfolsom
again
in his own words
ken o’keefe :
“I said this straight to Israeli agents, probably of Mossad or Shin Bet, and I say it again now, on the morning of the attack I was directly involved in the disarming of two Israeli Commandos. This was a forcible, non-negotiable, separation of weapons from commandos who had already murdered two brothers that I had seen that day. One brother with a bullet entering dead center in his forehead, in what appeared to be an execution. I knew the commandos were murdering when I removed a 9mm pistol from one of them. I had that gun in my hands and as an ex-US Marine with training in the use of guns it was completely within my power to use that gun on the commando who may have been the murderer of one of my brothers. But that is not what I, nor any other defender of the ship did. I took that weapon away, removed the bullets, proper lead bullets, separated them from the weapon and hid the gun. I did this in the hopes that we would repel the attack and submit this weapon as evidence in a criminal trial against Israeli authorities for mass murder.
I also helped to physically separate one commando from his assault rifle, which another brother apparently threw into the sea. I and hundreds of others know the truth that makes a mockery of the brave and moral Israeli military. We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos. These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers, inside the ship and surrounded by 100 or more men. I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of God in them. They looked at us as if we were them, and I have no doubt they did not believe there was any way they would survive that day. They looked like frightened children in the face of an abusive father.
But they did not face an enemy as ruthless as they.
Instead the woman provided basic first aid, and ultimately they were released, battered and bruised for sure, but alive. Able to live another day. Able to feel the sun over head and the embrace of loved ones. Unlike those they murdered. Despite mourning the loss of our brothers, feeling rage towards these boys, we let them go. The Israeli prostitutes of propaganda can spew all of their disgusting bile all they wish, the commandos are the murders, we are the defenders, and yet we fought. We fought not just for our lives, not just for our cargo, not just for the people of Palestine, we fought in the name of justice and humanity. We were right to do so, in every way.”
DE Teodoru
For this careerist TV chick this was showmanship for entertainment, not a serious dialogue. “What about…?” I often heard in debates with the New Left in the 60s and 70s. It is not used to state a relevant fact but to fish for something when you have nothing with which to counter a solid point from your interlocutor. Living under Communism and debating Communists all over the world I must say that Israel’s supposed “capitalist” Likudists and their minions sound very much like a bunch of Commies, as does the line imposed by the new management at BBC that replaced its reputable commentators with sycophants refusing to engage people like O’Keeffe in real MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. They parrot the Israeli party line, forced to do so, as is this vapid chick constantly uttering: “what about…?” Had she been serious she would have followed through on the evidence he claimed Israel confiscated. She didn’t, she just bellowed that old hollow refrain: “Oh yea, what about…?” I see again unfolding the New Left rhetorical style dominated 60s– then I was trying to collaborate with the neocons to promote reason and meaningful dialogue; but they proved to only be interested in sophistry and my towing their line. Now some neo-Zionists have closed the gate to chorale Diaspora Jews– the world’s most intellectual population…the cornerstone of Western culture….and among the brightest professors we all had as major influences at one time or other in the course of our education– to become brainless mouthpieces for a regime of criminals under investigation by the Israeli police. They also forced their Sabra children to act as thugs in defense of their lies; they also demanded that Diaspora Jews irrationally and mendaciously defend the criminality by which Israel would expand threatening to declare them “self-hating Jews” should they even question official hasbara. These pseudo-Zionist scum (read Buber for contrast) who exploited the Holocaust for their own financial profit, are deliberately driving totally insane Diaspora Jews long suffering guilt for their parents’ silence during the Holocaust by insisting that their Greater Israel is the only legitimate redemption of the Holocaust. In fact it is not. The redemption of the Holocaust is the survival of the Jewish FAITH and the Jewish ETHIC; it is also the global appreciation of the contribution of Jews to post-WWII Western culture. Jews taught us civil rights, Jews taught us Christian kindness, Jews taught us family responsibility and raising children to be their best and to never forget their roots. Now these same Jews are forced to belittle themselves speaking for a bunch of mindless ganovs; and no matter how much the Diasporics give Israel of themselves it is not enough.
If you only knew how many Jews were made medically ill by the sight of everything they knew about the Nazis being replayed by the Zioniazis, you would feel nothing but compassion and concern for the very many Diasporics holding loyally true to their nations of birth but, in respect for the Holocaust, giving Greater Israel nothing more than silence so as not to speak ill of other Jews. For a few Jews neo-Zionism is their mensch-hood moment, using their money to force Western media like this vapid BBC chick to put “What about…?” obstructions before reason and fact finding. They demand that all Diaspora Jews incriminate themselves by looking like Israel’s mindless fifth column. When Judge Goldstone refused– choosing truth over hasbara– they slandered him as an Apartheid judge that sent South African blacks to their death. These gangsters—typical Commies—know no bounds to their slander and violence obstructing truth. If you saw how this outrages Jews you would appreciate their suffering and you would devote yourself to defending the “one of us” status of every Diaspora Jew, never allowing that they be caught up in another Krystalnacht. Such Jew-hate, the current rulers of Israel hope for—but not Netanyahu—in order to drain them of all their wealth when they stampede to Israel in panic. Such suffering is diabolically plotted, wrecking the life, the prestige and the wealth Jews built so honorably and laboriously in the Diaspora. Jews are moral, very moral, and their silence should never be taken as supportive of the Zionazi notion that Arabs are vermin to be exterminated. O’Keefe was trying to remind us of the humanist side of most Sabras when he spoke of the IDF Commandos he disarmed as his “brothers.” Some day, forced by the pressure of Diaspora Jewish morality, Israel will concede its way ever closer to peace and that the security and tranquility it brings feels good, until, step by step Israeli children live in peace with the Arab children, prospering in collaboration modernizing the region, integrating as was the case in the past. Israel as separate nation is OK with everyone; but it must be integrated in the region; there is no contradiction between Arabs and Jews for they share a common Semitic base. O’Keefe did more to fight for Israel’s future than all the crooks in poor Netanyahu’s Cabinet. If we all show the same determination as the flotilla humanitarians Netanyahu will prevail over his brigands and Israel will know peace, security and prosperity…and above all an end to manufactured fear enslaving world Jewry.
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Rainy
This man is appalling! How dare he suggest that Israel remove the block on the gaza! The footage has been in favor of the Israeli soldiers. And NOT because it’s biased, because the video’s show what happened! They called warnings to the Flotilla, who were violating the water way rules deliberately, and the video coverage and tapes PROVE IT! Israeli lands have rockets dropped on them on a daily basis and have even been approached by children wrapped in suicide bombs. Who wraps their children in bombs??? The friggin Islamic terrorists! The people Israel has to protect it’s citizens from!
It’s time to get real about the intent of the Flotilla! They interviewed men on that ship that were sad because they did not get to die for their fake god! The intent was to break down Israel and to destroy them!
Israel sends 10,000 pounds of aid to the Palestinians every month. It’s Hamas that doesn’t allow the people to get the merchandise.
Hamas has built tunnels and uses their own children to dig the holes and to take weapons through the tunnels and don’t give a rats ass about them!
How dare you, you jerk, unless you’ve lived on the other side, in Israel, where they allow these religious fanatics to still walk their streets and worship in their ungodly dome, to try to demolish archeology that proves the Jewish heritage, to sit in judgement of this little tiny state amongst a bunch of Islamic terrorists!! Shame shame shame on you!!!
Rainy
If the Islamists put down their weapons there would be no more war…. If the Israeli’s put down their weapons, there would be no more Israel……
Malcom X
This man its my hero i talk the true..God bless you man you do nice job…
One love and peace
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again
in his own words
ken o’keefe :
“I said this straight to Israeli agents, probably of Mossad or Shin Bet, and I say it again now, on the morning of the attack I was directly involved in the disarming of two Israeli Commandos. This was a forcible, non-negotiable, separation of weapons from commandos who had already murdered two brothers that I had seen that day. One brother with a bullet entering dead center in his forehead, in what appeared to be an execution. I knew the commandos were murdering when I removed a 9mm pistol from one of them. I had that gun in my hands and as an ex-US Marine with training in the use of guns it was completely within my power to use that gun on the commando who may have been the murderer of one of my brothers. But that is not what I, nor any other defender of the ship did. I took that weapon away, removed the bullets, proper lead bullets, separated them from the weapon and hid the gun. I did this in the hopes that we would repel the attack and submit this weapon as evidence in a criminal trial against Israeli authorities for mass murder.
I also helped to physically separate one commando from his assault rifle, which another brother apparently threw into the sea. I and hundreds of others know the truth that makes a mockery of the brave and moral Israeli military. We had in our full possession, three completely disarmed and helpless commandos. These boys were at our mercy, they were out of reach of their fellow murderers, inside the ship and surrounded by 100 or more men. I looked into the eyes of all three of these boys and I can tell you they had the fear of God in them. They looked at us as if we were them, and I have no doubt they did not believe there was any way they would survive that day. They looked like frightened children in the face of an abusive father.
But they did not face an enemy as ruthless as they.
Instead the woman provided basic first aid, and ultimately they were released, battered and bruised for sure, but alive. Able to live another day. Able to feel the sun over head and the embrace of loved ones. Unlike those they murdered. Despite mourning the loss of our brothers, feeling rage towards these boys, we let them go. The Israeli prostitutes of propaganda can spew all of their disgusting bile all they wish, the commandos are the murders, we are the defenders, and yet we fought. We fought not just for our lives, not just for our cargo, not just for the people of Palestine, we fought in the name of justice and humanity. We were right to do so, in every way.”
For this careerist TV chick this was showmanship for entertainment, not a serious dialogue. “What about…?” I often heard in debates with the New Left in the 60s and 70s. It is not used to state a relevant fact but to fish for something when you have nothing with which to counter a solid point from your interlocutor. Living under Communism and debating Communists all over the world I must say that Israel’s supposed “capitalist” Likudists and their minions sound very much like a bunch of Commies, as does the line imposed by the new management at BBC that replaced its reputable commentators with sycophants refusing to engage people like O’Keeffe in real MEANINGFUL DIALOGUE. They parrot the Israeli party line, forced to do so, as is this vapid chick constantly uttering: “what about…?” Had she been serious she would have followed through on the evidence he claimed Israel confiscated. She didn’t, she just bellowed that old hollow refrain: “Oh yea, what about…?” I see again unfolding the New Left rhetorical style dominated 60s– then I was trying to collaborate with the neocons to promote reason and meaningful dialogue; but they proved to only be interested in sophistry and my towing their line. Now some neo-Zionists have closed the gate to chorale Diaspora Jews– the world’s most intellectual population…the cornerstone of Western culture….and among the brightest professors we all had as major influences at one time or other in the course of our education– to become brainless mouthpieces for a regime of criminals under investigation by the Israeli police. They also forced their Sabra children to act as thugs in defense of their lies; they also demanded that Diaspora Jews irrationally and mendaciously defend the criminality by which Israel would expand threatening to declare them “self-hating Jews” should they even question official hasbara. These pseudo-Zionist scum (read Buber for contrast) who exploited the Holocaust for their own financial profit, are deliberately driving totally insane Diaspora Jews long suffering guilt for their parents’ silence during the Holocaust by insisting that their Greater Israel is the only legitimate redemption of the Holocaust. In fact it is not. The redemption of the Holocaust is the survival of the Jewish FAITH and the Jewish ETHIC; it is also the global appreciation of the contribution of Jews to post-WWII Western culture. Jews taught us civil rights, Jews taught us Christian kindness, Jews taught us family responsibility and raising children to be their best and to never forget their roots. Now these same Jews are forced to belittle themselves speaking for a bunch of mindless ganovs; and no matter how much the Diasporics give Israel of themselves it is not enough.
If you only knew how many Jews were made medically ill by the sight of everything they knew about the Nazis being replayed by the Zioniazis, you would feel nothing but compassion and concern for the very many Diasporics holding loyally true to their nations of birth but, in respect for the Holocaust, giving Greater Israel nothing more than silence so as not to speak ill of other Jews. For a few Jews neo-Zionism is their mensch-hood moment, using their money to force Western media like this vapid BBC chick to put “What about…?” obstructions before reason and fact finding. They demand that all Diaspora Jews incriminate themselves by looking like Israel’s mindless fifth column. When Judge Goldstone refused– choosing truth over hasbara– they slandered him as an Apartheid judge that sent South African blacks to their death. These gangsters—typical Commies—know no bounds to their slander and violence obstructing truth. If you saw how this outrages Jews you would appreciate their suffering and you would devote yourself to defending the “one of us” status of every Diaspora Jew, never allowing that they be caught up in another Krystalnacht. Such Jew-hate, the current rulers of Israel hope for—but not Netanyahu—in order to drain them of all their wealth when they stampede to Israel in panic. Such suffering is diabolically plotted, wrecking the life, the prestige and the wealth Jews built so honorably and laboriously in the Diaspora. Jews are moral, very moral, and their silence should never be taken as supportive of the Zionazi notion that Arabs are vermin to be exterminated. O’Keefe was trying to remind us of the humanist side of most Sabras when he spoke of the IDF Commandos he disarmed as his “brothers.” Some day, forced by the pressure of Diaspora Jewish morality, Israel will concede its way ever closer to peace and that the security and tranquility it brings feels good, until, step by step Israeli children live in peace with the Arab children, prospering in collaboration modernizing the region, integrating as was the case in the past. Israel as separate nation is OK with everyone; but it must be integrated in the region; there is no contradiction between Arabs and Jews for they share a common Semitic base. O’Keefe did more to fight for Israel’s future than all the crooks in poor Netanyahu’s Cabinet. If we all show the same determination as the flotilla humanitarians Netanyahu will prevail over his brigands and Israel will know peace, security and prosperity…and above all an end to manufactured fear enslaving world Jewry.
0
This man is appalling! How dare he suggest that Israel remove the block on the gaza! The footage has been in favor of the Israeli soldiers. And NOT because it’s biased, because the video’s show what happened! They called warnings to the Flotilla, who were violating the water way rules deliberately, and the video coverage and tapes PROVE IT! Israeli lands have rockets dropped on them on a daily basis and have even been approached by children wrapped in suicide bombs. Who wraps their children in bombs??? The friggin Islamic terrorists! The people Israel has to protect it’s citizens from!
It’s time to get real about the intent of the Flotilla! They interviewed men on that ship that were sad because they did not get to die for their fake god! The intent was to break down Israel and to destroy them!
Israel sends 10,000 pounds of aid to the Palestinians every month. It’s Hamas that doesn’t allow the people to get the merchandise.
Hamas has built tunnels and uses their own children to dig the holes and to take weapons through the tunnels and don’t give a rats ass about them!
How dare you, you jerk, unless you’ve lived on the other side, in Israel, where they allow these religious fanatics to still walk their streets and worship in their ungodly dome, to try to demolish archeology that proves the Jewish heritage, to sit in judgement of this little tiny state amongst a bunch of Islamic terrorists!! Shame shame shame on you!!!
If the Islamists put down their weapons there would be no more war…. If the Israeli’s put down their weapons, there would be no more Israel……
This man its my hero i talk the true..God bless you man you do nice job…
One love and peace